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Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation


Because of President Obama's appearance and speech at Notre Dame this Sunday, some seniors will not attend their own graduation ceremony and instead join a University prayer service on the grounds at Notre Dame. No indication yet as to how many seniors will forgo the graduation ceremony.

The student group behind this effort, ND Response, has made this wild hollywood style video showcasing their displeasure with Notre Dame and the President. I must say the production value is extremely high and I feel like I'm watching a trailer for some sort of hollywood blockbuster movie. Watch it here.

Read below as to what will be taking place this Sunday at Notre Dame:

The meditation, which will be led by Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, is part of a two-day rally that has been officially sanctioned by the university.

The evening of May 16, bishop of the Fort Wayne- South Bend diocese, Rev. John D'Arcy, will lead a candlelight prayer vigil for graduating seniors and their families to pray for an end to abortion and embryo research.

On May 17, Commencement Day, in addition to the meditation ceremony, a large rally will be held on the South Quad of the university, the campus' main quad, between 11 a.m. and 4 p.m. Speakers at the rally will include Elizabeth Naquin Border, Notre Dame graduate and former chairman of the board for the Women's Care Centers in South Bend; Rev. Joseph Raphael, Notre Dame graduate and principal of St. Augustine's High School in New Orleans; William Solomon, director of the university's Center for Ethics and Culture; and Chris Godfrey, a Notre Dame law school graduate and former offensive guard for the Super Bowl XXI champion New York Giants.


You know, the Obama faith team worked really hard during the campaign to court Catholic voters and it paid off because Obama won the Catholic vote. It made a difference in swing states like Pennsylvania and others. All along the Obama team knew they had a challenge on the abortion issue but was able to break through because of how candidate Obama lined up with Catholics on other issues like torture, healthcare, climate change, human rights, etc.

Since becoming President, Mr. Obama has made policy that has left himself open to criticism by pro-life Catholics (conscience clause, mexico city, embryonic stem cell research). When the President faces re-election in 2012, the faith team will have an even tougher challenge because with evidence in hand, pro-life Catholics will now mount a full scale offensive against the President. Moderate Catholic groups are armed for battle too. Will this be a Catholic armageddon of sorts?

By the way, just because some students at Notre Dame take issue with what will happen Sunday, let me provide a little balance here. Read more on that here. 23 student groups support the move by Notre Dame. More on that here and did you know that the Notre Dame valedictorian is an Obama supporter? Read that here.

 


 

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# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Dear graduates - I commend you for sticking to your morals and ethics - the things that you have been taught. You have learned your lessons well. Notre Dame school officials could learn a few things from you. Too bad they do not practice what they preach. Their inviting Obama to speak at your commencement is a slap in face to all of you. My thoughts and prayers are with each of you as you start on the next step of your journey.
Left by DLewis on May 12, 2009 9:13 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Obama has always voted for abortion(since 1999), and for stem cell research(2000). No surpise. Guess David Brody doesn't get it. At election time I hope voters get it and throw Obama out. He has always voted against christian values, period. How can he go to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years and then say he didn't know Wright was spewing racial hatred, Sunday after Sunday for years?
Left by Anonymous on May 12, 2009 9:25 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

These students have it all wrong. The honor is not having Brack Obama at their graduation, the honor is having the President of the United States at their graduation. You respect the office, even if you may not respect the man.
I had to deal with a similar situation with employees who did not want to attend an event that President Bush was speaking at in 2008. I hope these students get to enjoy their commencement ceremony to which they have worked so hard for.
Left by gorms13 on May 12, 2009 9:26 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

The students have got it all right! Someone needs to stand up for morals! As far as respecting the office, the squatter's mother was too young when she had the little obamatard for him to claim he is a US citizen. When he comes forward with the proper documents to prove he/it is eligible, then I'll respect the office. Ineligibilty supercedes one's respect for the office. There has never been someone in this office who has exhibited the high unmoral character this usurp has exhibited!
Left by KLoudon on May 12, 2009 9:36 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

"You respect the office, even if you may not respect the man."
This time I disagree with that statement. The man in office doesn't respect the office or the people of these United States. I say no.
You can't ask these people to turn their backs on their beliefs for the sake of surface diplomacy.
If there was any real shred of respect to be demonstrated in this situation it should be on behalf of the President who should find a way of bowing out of this situation out of respect for the students who have worked so hard for this graduation.
Left by smcpatrick on May 12, 2009 9:46 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

I'm not a Catholic. However, you are standing up for LIFE and MORALS, which is something this government has completely thrown out the window. I completely support your decision to skip your graduation. It's about time people started standing up for GOD!!! This country was founded ONE NATION UNDER GOD!!! We need to put GOD back in charge and start living for HIM. Thank You for having the guts to stand up for whats right. GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
Left by Monty on May 12, 2009 9:50 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

The students definitely have it all right! Good for you! When any President goes against everything the college he will be speaking at is supposed to stand for why have him speak? gorms13 your situation was totally different, the employees you speak of did not all have the same moral or christian values. Employees are a gathering of all kinds. However, when you are attending a "Christian" university you would think the school officials would chose like values in their speakers. Shame on them! God Bless you all who are standing up for the unborn. Hang in there, you will catch flack for doing the right thing and a pat on the back for doing wrong...Makes no sense at all does it?
Left by pchelli on May 12, 2009 9:57 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Catholic Armageddon??? No, the "gates of hell shall not prevail against her." There will be no Catholic Armageddon. The Church of Jesus Christ will not be destroyed by those who deny the Truth by denying Life. This is more of a cleansing, where those that have hidden behind the shadows of the half-truths and humanism are being exposed and will either submit to Christ or to Caesar. Some Catholics just didn't get the notice, "The Cafeteria is Now Closed."
Left by catholicmom3 on May 12, 2009 10:04 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

There is no honor in having a president who is in favor of late term abortion speaking propoganda to graduates. I feel bad for those seniors who will miss their special day because Obama doesn't have the decency to decline. But it has brought to light that Notre Dame is no longer the Catholic institution it once was and its disregard for the Bishops is quite apparent. If it wasn't giving the honorary degree, it might be ok for him to speak.
Left by Dee on May 12, 2009 10:11 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

The issue of President Obama speaking at the Notre Dame commencement is a very serious matter and should not be taken lightly. This will be Obama’s second address at a major Catholic University with there being controversy for each of them. These events illustrate the insidious methods being utilized by Obama and his advisors to further their cause.
Why would Obama ask to make addresses to major Catholic Universities knowing full well that the Church objects to his views on two major issues? Also, because of his support for actions to force Catholic hospitals and Catholic doctors to perform abortions, you would think he would want to avoid these controversies. His motive is to divide the Liberal and the Conservative Church membership to gain the full support of the Liberals and isolate the Conservatives. Anyone who criticizes his appearance and presentation at a Catholic University is being labeled by the Liberal Church members and University affiliates as close minded a a bigot.
Left by TRE on May 12, 2009 10:15 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

These students are doing the right thing. As they prepare for life after college, many tough decisions will have to be made. We will need leaders like these students to take stands and make a difference in our world. Evil will continue to prosper as long as good people stand on the sidelines and let it happen. I say good for the students who take a stand against someone who has such little regard for the values of life! I look forward to these students impacting the world as they continue with their life after college.
Left by lumberjak on May 12, 2009 10:23 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

For sixty years the left has been pecking away at our Christian belief system. It is time to stand and fight back. It is only fitting that we make our stand at Notre Damn and fight these leftist and their appeasers.

If Obama was truly the unifier he claims to be wouldn’t he have backed out months ago? This only proves he is the opposite of what he claims and that is the case with his whole agenda. Yet there are those Christians who think they can appease the left and win. Bush already proved that a fallacy. His eight years of appeasing the left and signing every expense bill got him nowhere. He left office with his tale between his legs.

There is no compromise with these people. How can anyone compromise any part of their moral belief system? The only way to defeat a true enemy is to defeat them unconditionally through strength, courage and will.
Left by Dave on May 12, 2009 10:37 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Praise God for young adults who still have a conscience. For those who say we are honoring the office and no the person: that argument does not have any merit. Is the eternal Church's responsibility in the world to honor a temporal position of authority which has been in existence for a little more than 200 years or is its higher calling to defend life at all phases?

These students are not dishonoring Obama or the office of presidency by boycotting their own graduation. They are making a statement in support of life and the president's responsibility as outlined in the constitution to defend it.

President Obama: I pray for you. May the Lord have mercy.

Notre Dame: I pray for you. May the Lord have mercy.
Left by John on May 12, 2009 10:38 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

If Obama had any honor, he would bow out and allow all ND seniors to participate in their graduation. They are the ones who have studied and worked so hard for their degree. He, of all people, does not deserve an honorary degree. I am proud of all students who do not attend and are standing up for their beliefs. I am not a Catholic, but so appreciate Catholics for supporting life as they do. Shame on the ND staff who invited Obama. They do not deserve to be in their position.
Left by Melanie on May 12, 2009 10:41 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

My daughter's religious education has been in a (theologically) liberal Protestant environment, but as a student at Notre Dame she is surrounded by politically liberal Catholics who not only don't care about Catholic Church doctrine, they don't even know it.

It's very sad to me, but the Catholic Church apparently will implode from this inner conflict. Catholics obviously don't respect their church's teaching any more.
Left by Jerome on May 12, 2009 11:03 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

The adults who encourage impressionable children/teenagers to forsake such an important part of their lives should be ashamed. You only graduate ONCE and this so-called controversy will PASS.
Left by JamesM on May 12, 2009 11:09 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Tooooo funny! "You respect the office not the man". Funniest thing I've read today. After all isn't desent the highest form of democracy?

And didn't the libs respect President Bush from day one?

This president is trying to destroy capitalism, liberty, free speech....while buying power for the democrat party. Why would anybody object to that?????
Left by Dave on May 12, 2009 11:10 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Notre Dame has made a poor choice for a commencement speaker in its search for noteriety. I'm sure that the administration responsible for this choice of speaker feels that the whole thing will blow over shortly and things will go on as usual. The one thing which will get their attention is if Notre Dame's alumni sends the school letters, stating that, instead of contributing to the university, they are contributing to various pro-life organizations. Sadly, in this day and age, university administrations are more motivated by monetary considerations than they are by issues of morality or faith.
Left by Cassandra15 on May 12, 2009 11:13 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Hey Holier-than-thou folks, how about directing your righteous indignation where it belongs for once? If you really want to be outraged, how about the hundreds if not thosands of priests over hundreds of years that have sexually assaulted countless little boys? And while your'e at it, how about the billions of dollars in parishioner's tithes that have been spent on lawyers to get them off? I dont recall any problems at Notre Dame when George W Bush spoke there. A man who was directly responsible for thousands of needless deaths in Iraq and while governor of Texas approved more executions than anyone else in the US failed to stir the slightest concern in you folks so intent on protecting all human life. Your morality is exclusive and selective. You find exemptions to your doctrines it whenever it suits you. Pro-life means all human life, not just fetuses and stem cells.
Left by alter boy1950 on May 12, 2009 11:17 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation


Once again, the pupils are smarter than the teachers!!

I applaud the Graduates! Keep your morals straight in this rapidly socialist turning country!

You are our only hope for the future! Kudos to your Parents also!

May God continue to bless and keep you all!!

Left by Spinman on May 12, 2009 11:17 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Christ and His followers are under attack around the world. In our wonderful America, the politically correct are denying our foundation as a Christian nation. If you criticize the policies against the teachings in the Bible, you are attacked by the liberals of political parties, who have rationalized their religious principles. However, Christ said, "Blessed are you when they insult you and persecute you and utter every kind of evil against you because of me, rejoice and be glad, for your reward will be great in heaven." God Bless America. God Bless the students who stand up for righteousness. God bless all those who stand with them. Pray for those who have lost their way.
Left by Anonymous on May 12, 2009 11:18 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Those young men and women are secure in their opposition to abortion because they are educated and well informed about birth control and have little fear of an unwanted pregnancy. No one should be posting here under the delusion that they are abstinent.
If they choose to forgo their graduation ceremony and to miss one of the only real historic occasions they will ever have the opportunity to participate in, so be it. One can only wonder what constricted lives they will live, out of touch with their own times in order to conform to outmoded dictates which will be obsolete by the time their own children graduate from a secular college. I'm sorry for them, but really, those who will be sitting listening to the President are more interesting to me.















Left by fregan on May 12, 2009 11:38 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

I applaud the students for standing up for the morals and values the Catholic Church teaches. I believe larger point is not being discussed or is missed totally. It is not just about "President" Obama speaking at the commencement but also getting an honorary degree for it. It is much larger then even that. The larger issue facing the Catholic community is the disobedience being shown when local priest do not follow the direct orders from their bishop. The Catholic Church always talks about tradition, well obedience has been a tradition within the Church since the beginning. I believe, the sin of Adam and Eve was disobedience? In the book titled God, Country and Notre Dame enormous details were given about obedience from the priest at Notre Dame. How far do we have to fall before we will stand up for what is right.
Left by Bill on May 12, 2009 11:57 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

On May 17th, 200p Notre Dame ceases to be a Catholic University. It becomes just another University. Life suffers because Obama's Mother made the Right Choice.
Left by sapientlife on May 12, 2009 12:10 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

"There is no honor in having a president who is in favor of late term abortion speaking propoganda to graduates."

Dee, simply being in favor of late-term abortions would be a step FORWARD for this guy. He repeatedly voted in Illinois to let infant survivors of abortions DIE on the table (or in the trash can.)
Left by p3orion on May 12, 2009 12:19 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

I commend the students for sticking to their pro-life stance. We need more young people to do this. Another good way of showing that this is unacceptable would be for the parents to pull their kids out of that school and stop giving them money. Obviously, this school has abandoned all it's Catholic beliefs and teachings on morals. They will turn your kids into pagans. I would also like to add that if our election was an honest one, Obama would never have been elected. He got in by the skin of his teeth and only by fraud and deception and alot of help from Acorn.
Left by Jackie Albrecht on May 12, 2009 12:22 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

The Catholic Church is hardly the place for the moral and righteous to make a stand! Where were they during WW2 when the Nazi regime (which was mostly Catholic) murdered and plundered all over Europe? Priests all over the world are hurting children while the church scrambles to hide them by moving them. How disgusting is that? Let's not forget the money that was stolen by many of these same priests. Money that was intended for God's work and instead bought cars, drugs, sex and protection from prosecution! Seniors, go to your graduation. Show the world that you are above this childish nonsense. The country is fed up with extremists. If the church had its' way, we would all be brainwashed Christains with old white men as our leaders! Impossible! This 2009, the days of the Catholic church sending its' thugs around the world to smash civilazations and commit genocide are OVER! You've lost credibility. Jesus never said a word about abortion. Still, you support the death penalty? Come on!
Left by Umpire on May 12, 2009 12:27 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Glad to hear the graduates are not standing up for the Obamatron dog and pony show....Obama brushes aside religion therefore abandons our nation's real moral background. The students are absolutely 100% correct.

Obama is not and never will be my president.
Left by Steve Harkonnen on May 12, 2009 12:31 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

My heart goes out to the students who stand on PRINCIPLES of their religion and convictions. It would appear your "other" students are there for the "name" of the school and not what the school stands for. Perhaps Notre Dame can once against stand for something nobel, just and true. This, of course, requires rebuking Obama.
Left by Bryan on May 12, 2009 12:46 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

What President Obama's Catholic supporters are missing is that he is not simply pro-choice. He is a vampire-level pro-abortionist who never mentions adoption as a choice that would help everyone, including the baby and those who would adopt it.

He opposes bans on partial birth abortion. In Illinois he voted AGAINST the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which sought to protect a child born from a botched abortion, even after the wording of the bill was matched to the Act that was passed by the US Senate 98-0, with the support of NARAL and the votes of major pro-abortion Senators

During the campaign, Obama promised that he would sign into law the disingenuously named Freedom of Choice Act, which would allow abortions on demand at any time for any reason, make abortions subject to taxpayer subsidies, may force Catholic hospitals to perform abortions or lose federal funding, and prevent the states from placing any restrictions on abortion.

Wise up, Notre Dame.
Left by MarioG on May 12, 2009 1:08 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

The student are being robbed of the celebration they've worked very hard to achieve the past several years. Instead of boycotting THEIR ceremony, they should stand up and turn their backs in protest. That would send a more resounding message than their absence.
Left by The Sports Dude on May 12, 2009 1:29 PM

# RE: The honor is not having Brack Obama at their graduation, the honor is having the President of the United States at their..."

I expect to be judged by my maker whether or not I respected LIFE not if I respected the "Office of the President of the United States".

I am a graduate of another Cathoic University and I would have joined the prayer service rather than the graduation ceremony as well.
Left by momof2 on May 12, 2009 1:32 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Mr. Brody, you are grasping at straws trying to make this news. Most likely two students will protest the President. As a Catholic, I find it hypocritical of my Church to get upset about Obama speaking at ND when it had no problem with George Bush, who engaged the U.S. in an immoral and illegal war against the people in Iraq, killing hundreds of thousands of people. I find it funny that Evangelicals are stoking the fires on this issue when most of you think Catholics are going to hell...
Left by Jeff Schreifels on May 12, 2009 2:00 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

God bless those of you who had the courage to stand up to this godless regime. Please work to get all of the other students and graduates to boycott this judas. Will you have to cover up all symbols of our faith to appease this totalitarian as they did at Georgetown University? I hope not. By recieving this anti Christian to Notre Dame you give creedance to his policys.
Just after he is to speak at your great institution, he will be speaking at a mosque in Egypt where he will again tell the islamic world that the United States is not a Christian Country.
Please do not let him speak at one of the most important days of your lives. He spurns everything you stand for.
Left by rephoto on May 12, 2009 2:26 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Four years ago, I was so distraught that my son chose to attend Georgia Tech over Notre Dame. I am no longer distraught!!!!
Left by Hugh on May 12, 2009 2:27 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Thank God there are some Notre Dame seniors willing to stand up for their beliefs.
These students can teach the President of the United States a thing or two. Obama says what he wants - what he feels is necessary to please any given audience at any given time. He even back stabs his own country while on foreign soil-he is leading our country on a sorry path. Our President maintains a radical stance on abortion - in addition he is a man that demonstrats very little interest in his own personal religion (whatever that may be) - his family does not attend religious services on a regular basis. Is it important for the President to attend religious services - YES - to be a member of a church congregation - YES. He has a lot of lost time to make up for - all those years listening to his radical, hateful minister. Being a Catholic for 70 years - I can say our Sundays are geared to "the word". Obama does not know what being a Catholic is all about therefore, he should not speak at ND.
Left by RAltiere on May 12, 2009 2:41 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

It is hard to belive that some of the comments here were written by so called "Christians." But that's a discussion for another day.

Lets get something straight. Notre Dame University INVITED President Obama to give the commencement, not the other way around. If you want to protest something, you should protest the university.

One more thing. You represent the minority and these seniors also represent the minority. A great majority of students at Notre Dame actually approved and are excited for the President coming to the university. Therefore, you should get over it.
Left by Eros Wong on May 12, 2009 2:42 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation


We're already in the middle of the end! it's written that the Church will fall!

Just didn't think America would do it to itself!

Where have all the John Wayne's and Ronald Wilson Reagan's gone???????

Sad really!
Left by Spinman on May 12, 2009 2:46 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Three cheers for the administration at Notre Dame for
1. Extending the speaking invitation to President Obama and
2. Not giving in to those who demand that the invitation be rescinded.

To all of you who are demanding that all pregnancies continue to term, I ask this: Who among you are willing to help out financially with improverished families raising unwanted children? I didn't think so. Your concern about babies begins with conception and ends with birth.

Left by LH on May 12, 2009 2:47 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

The graduates should not miss their graduation. They should attend and when Obama speaks they should do something to protest him: like stand and turn their backs to him, remove their caps and put them over their faces, put their hands over their ears. Something to show protest but yet not completely disrespectful. This may sound a bit childish but it is better than some of the Code Pink actions with President Bush. It would show their dissatisfaction while still enabling them to attend their graduation and still maintaining the class that they have.
Just a thought...
Left by kf on May 12, 2009 2:48 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

If they don't want to attend their graduation for their beliefs, it is there decision. How they believe that a privacy issue "Roe v Wade" and Obama's support of that ruling makes him in some way in favor of killing babies makes absolutely no logical sense. Why we as Americans focus on these issues rather than the absolute fraud being perpetrated by Wall Street is absurd and disturbing. I would support them more if they didn't attend because Obama has failed to pursue indictments on Wall Street, and the crimes of the past administration, but no, they are stuck on a wedge.

Left by sanspeur on May 12, 2009 2:52 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

I was feeling very bad about the youth of this country but after reading this and listening to the Miss California's speech earlier today I'm feeling alot better. Don't be afraid to express your beliefs, you live in America....home of the brave, land of the free!!!!

Go get'em people!!!
Left by Very Proud on May 12, 2009 2:53 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Protesting for the sake of protesting is wrong. However, God bless those university students who are taking a stand for what is right, noble, and true. It is entirely different. Prophetically they are speaking like Jeremiah and Ezekiel did so many years ago; trying to call the religious leaders to practice justice and compassion. Will the school's leaders listen? There is still time for them to fix this. Do what is right!
Left by Rev. Jason A. Faminoff on May 12, 2009 2:54 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

The culture in America today has digressed to where it has become fashionable to abandon what is right to be considered “modern” -
Morals, Human decency and life itself go out the window to be "free of responsibilites"-
Those who would criticize these seniors for standing their ground are prime examples of the “sheep” I refer too-
Not leaders but miss-guided individuals who think they are being "progressive, open minded and modern" when, in the end, all they have become are mindless followers of a misguided 60's diatribe. -
As a product of the 60’s I am ashamed of my generations “do what ever feels good” legacy that brought this country to where it is now. On the other hand I am optimistic and extremely encourage seeing these seniors identifying what is wrong and taking action.
They are the leaders this country needs.-
I hope every senior at Notre Dame take’s part in this movement and leave this man standing in the dark.
Left by Noynnik on May 12, 2009 3:04 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Three cheers for Notre Dame, its President, the vast majority of its student body and the President of the United States.

In the spirit of a true institution of higher learning, Notre Dame is a place where ideas can be freely exchanged. More so than many of the posturing loudmouths, Notre Dame is attuned to the messages conveyed by the Sermon on the Mount. That same commitment has been demonstrated by our president -- to a far greater extent than his predecessor.

Many of the vocal abortion protesters seem to obsess on that issue to the exclusion of other issues. If they spent half of their protest time lobbying for better conditions and opportunities for all children, their moral mission would be far more productive.

HJB, Notre Dame Law School, Class of 1965
Left by HJB on May 12, 2009 3:10 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

I am so proud of these student who are willing to forego the pomp of a graduation ceremony in favor of prayer. I am a graduate of a Catholic faith based college and am in total admiration for these students that stand on their principals rather than the empty shock & awe of Obama. These graduates are true leaders.
Left by karynr on May 12, 2009 3:32 PM

# Disrespectful to magisterium, See of Peter

It's sad, really, that ND has stooped to this level. They have no understanding of the Papal decrees on this matter. The Pope (both Benedict and John Paul) have issued encyclicals about not supporting or giving platforms to those who oppose Church teachings. The entire point of the Catholic Church is to spread the Gospel and a crucial part of the Gospel is respect for God's creation, including the unborn.

This is just another reason why Rome has become increasingly frustrated with the American Church. There is no respect for the Magisterium or the doctrinal authority of the bishops or the Cathechism. Christ said to St. Peter, "upon this rock I will build my church." The rock is less than solid here in the U.S.

The old Catholic schools like Georgetown (that let "IHS" be covered up when Obama spoke there) are dying as liberalism infects them. Only newer schools like Thomas More, Christendom, Franciscan Univ, or Thomas Aquinas are REALLY Catholic institution.
Left by MassCatholic on May 12, 2009 3:37 PM

# Will Rogers

Notre Dame will forever have its image as a prestigious Catholic University erased. This issue will not go away.

The difference between death and taxes is death doesn’t get worse every time Congress meets.” - Will Rogers
Left by Coyotee on May 12, 2009 3:46 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

My goodness, yes, HJB. Why would anyone "obsess" about life issues? What part about "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you" don't you get? God has a plan for all human beings. Shame on any Catholic or Protestant Christian for that matter who voted for his evil man. I question his Christianity, frankly. Obama gives lip service and nothing more to it. It's not bad enough he seems to be okay with abortion, but he doesn't seem much bothered by infanticide either. This disrespect for human life will have an impact on each and every one of us one day. We'd all better hope we don't cost too much money when we grow old, or it will be the Barack Obamas among us who will decide when it's time for us to leave this life. Before there can be any Sermon on the Mount, there has to be human beings who survived the womb. Dope.
Left by cks on May 12, 2009 4:11 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

My Husband and I are devout Catholics. We understand the concept of "respecting the office". However, those in the office must EARN it. The man in that office now has been only disrespectful in every issue he's come across. We agree that if he cared at all about these students (or Our Lord Jesus Christ, which he claims to) then he would back off and not attend this graduation. But, as with everything in his presidency, it's about HIM and no on else. Where he last spoke they covered up the symbol IHS. What are they going to cover up in Notre-Dame. It sounds like they've already covered up their morals by letting him be there at all. To all of the students who are participating in the Prayer groups instead of graduation, congratulations and thank you for standing up for God. To those who say they shouldn't do this because you only graduate once, these students are graduating with the best Honors of all, the Honor of standing up for God and their Catholic beliefs. Thank you to all of you.
Left by Therese on May 12, 2009 4:15 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

At first I must admit that I was horrified by the stance of these students toward their President. But then I realized I was being hypocritical, because if former President Bush had been scheduled to speak at my graduation, I know I would have been morally opposed to his presence. I would definitely have stayed away in that case, so I can't really condemn these students for having similar moral qualms.
Left by GARNE on May 12, 2009 4:34 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

When a Catholic University defies church positions, it becomes apparent that the university has sold it's soul for some kind of status issue!
If the President openly supported first degree murder would he be invited? At what point does the university administration place political correctness ahead of the correctness of church position?
Seems to me like the Dean needs to be re-educated at a non Catholic university. He obviously does NOT understand what Notre Dame USED to mean to Catholics and the world!
Those who would dismiss the abortion issue cannot stand as true followers of Catholicism!
Left by MRD on May 12, 2009 4:38 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

As a Catholic, I am deeply ashamed of Notre Dame and other Catholics and now realize why so many are leaving the church.......they can't stand up to the President or for their own beliefs. This is the person who, while overseas stated that we are not a Christian nation and believes in partial birth abortion, who requested Georgetown University (a Catholic University) to cover religious statues and crosses before he spoke, who for years listened to Rev. Wright defame, ridicule and denounce Jews and white people etc, and will eventually turn this country into a socialist anti-religious state. The board of trustees, students, faculty and alumni should immediately demand the resignation of the president of the university and all the other nitwits who extended the invitation to Obama.
Left by Big Tom on May 12, 2009 4:59 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

These students are definitely doing the right thing. I am very happy to say that my daughter has declined acceptance to Notre Dame and will be attending Catholic University instead. She wrote a letter to the administration explaining her position and her distain for what she considers the hypocritical invite of B. Hussein Obama. She and her boyfriend have been very active in the Catholic youth group in our diocese and like these seniors are true to their faith. Her boyfriend declined his acceptance as well, and has chosen to attend Georgetown instead. I hope the administration takes notice of the couple of hundred grand they won’t be getting from me and my daughter’s boyfriend’s parents.

I can only hope my alma mater Seaton Hall doesn’t make the same mistake.
Left by Proud_Father on May 12, 2009 5:06 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

These students are definitely doing the right thing. I am very happy to say that my daughter has declined acceptance to Notre Dame and will be attending Catholic University instead. She wrote a letter to the administration explaining her position and her distain for what she considers the hypocritical invite of B. Hussein Obama. She and her boyfriend have been very active in the Catholic youth group in our diocese and like these seniors are true to their faith. Her boyfriend declined his acceptance as well, and has chosen to attend Georgetown instead. I hope the administration takes notice of the couple of hundred grand they won’t be getting from me and my daughter’s boyfriend’s parents.

I can only hope my alma mater Seaton Hall doesn’t make the same mistake.
Left by Proud_Father on May 12, 2009 5:18 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Have no regrets about missing a speech by this President.

You will have many opportunities to listen to some other fraud speak throughout your lifetime, missing this one won't hurt you a bit.
Left by Nick in Virginia on May 12, 2009 5:18 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

If President Obama doesn't take seriously the campaign remarks that pretended to respect both sides of the abortion issue, and if the administration of Notre Dame doesn't take the church teachings on the subject seriously, then why should graduates take the ceremony seriously. May as well skip it.
Left by The Reticulator on May 12, 2009 5:29 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Bravo for those students that stand to defend the teachings of the church and don't want Obama at ND. When it comes to the teachings of the Church there is no exception....the truth is the truth but our truth is not always the truth--Got it? The teachings of the Church comes from God,so that we don't forget God's laws....we adjust to His laws not the other way around. We serve God and not a politician that goes against God's laws. If, some priests and other relevant catholic have dishonor the church badly we have to learn to keep and do our dirty laundry at home..is called charity...and not to constantly display it to the enemy (sometimes yourself)but see the centuries of great saints and good things in our church..I promise you that you will be proud to be a catholic. Throwing more dirt doesn't make you a better christian or does it? You and me too will be judged one day...we are here to make things better.. to defend and protect our precious faith..and for those faithful...God Bless!
Left by carmen on May 12, 2009 5:48 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

The culture of legislated and legalized murder is wrong. (An extremely sad fact many are unwilling to consider.) Obama has been at the utmost forefront of this movement. Devistatingly, for many the "convenience" this "offers" to those who take advantage of this legality, actually bring upon themselves (with the help of our up-for-sale or already-sold-out government) extreme remorse not so far down the road. What a true tragedy!

It would be wonderful if the whole student body showed moral fortitude and boycotted the graduation ceremony. What greater gain could they have in this event than to show the whole world a genuine dissent from an immoral president.

It is clear.

Let us make him understand clearly that we stand on the other side of the river he is standing on.




Left by True Patriot on May 12, 2009 5:57 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

At first impression, as a Bible believing Christian it seems like an appropriate action by the students to boycott President Obama's visit to Notre Dame, mainly because it puts action into the words of the old hymn "Stand up Stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross".
But we Christians are also admonished to "Love your enemies, do good to those that hate you, and pray for those that despise you for my Name sake."
So what then are the students to provide an audience to one who is in support of a satanic doctrine called abortion? How does that align with our Lord's admonition "for if ye do it unto one of these you have done it unto me", Jesus speaking about children.
Then what of President Obama who avows that he is a Christian? Jesus tells us "you will know them by their fruits". Then what are the fruits that we can attach to President Obama's testimony?
President Obama showed that he is not a follower of Jesus with his decisions. The students are right to avoid satanic doctrine.
Left by rmirod on May 12, 2009 6:56 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

O.K. I just have to ask these questions. Can we or should we tell women what to do to their bodies or what to about circumstances about her body? How many of these Seniors are women and would want men to dictate what they do to their bodies? When placed with this question, I don't think you will get a lot of arguments. Should we demand that women don't wear make-up or cosmetics?

Also, are the Seniors or student body or faculty members protesting other things that are immoral in the bible that is happening on their campuses- like homosexuality by student peers and certain faculty personnel.

If they are protesting Pres. Obama for his advocation of "Civil Unions"; then I say they would be protesting for a good cause. However, protesting him for agreeing that we cannot tell a woman what she can do to her body in a personal choice, an immoral circumstance, or life-threathing situation is absurd. The government and the church should recommend and counsel only-the Pres. position.
Left by RWEThinking on May 12, 2009 7:34 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

My fellow catholics never grasp the difference between being pro-choice and pro-abortion. President Obama suports a woman's right to choose. Catholic's single-mindedness on this issue helped elect the worst president in our nation's history...twice, and who incidentally paid only lip service to catholics' unwavering support of "life."
We are blessed to have a man of superior intellect and integrity as our new president. I do not believe from his words, that Obama is a proponent of abortion. He does however support our law guaranteeing women power over their bodies. To read the hysterical rantings on this blog, one would think Obama performed abortions himself in the oval office.
This is a misguided out-pouring of disrespect for our president. Obama is consumed with fixing the disastrous economy left to him by the previous administration, and then working to provide health care universally to our citizens. He deserves your support and prayers rather than your scorn.
Left by Boston Peter on May 13, 2009 12:07 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

I call on all Christians who financially support Notre Dame University to contact the Dean, tell him of your displeasure with the selection of a pro-abortionist like Obama to speak at the school and receive an honorary degree, and let the Dean know you will pull your financial support from the school if Obama does speak there on Sunday. And God bless you for standing up for God's Word.
Left by Lisa Day on May 14, 2009 10:14 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

I am a cradle Catholic and attended Catholic grammar and high schools. I am thrilled with the Presidency of Barack Obama. I was at ASU this Wednesday when he spoke-it was a privilege to be there. As a Catholic growing up in the 50's and 60's, we cared about the poor, the elderly, the disabled. We cared about whether people had healthcare, food and utilities. President Obama cares about the things that I care about. In the last 28 years, we have had 20 years under a Republican Presidency (8 for Reagan, 4 HW Bush, 8 George Bush). Abortion is still legal. The Republican right pays lip service to those who only care about abortion-nothing for anyone after birth. If we improve peoples lives (and I'm not talking about welfare) but push education and health care, there will be fewer abortions. I care about life after conception. I agree with Boston Peter, President Obama deserves our support and prayers as he tries to make our country and its citizens stronger and better.
Left by azul on May 16, 2009 2:57 PM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Abortion is not a black and white subject.

The gray areas of abortion offer many opportunities for passion to overcome christian beliefs and produce pure and evil hate between those for and those against abortion.

It seems to me that there is an underlying problem with listening to politicians and debating the abortion issue - it is a hot topic and gets politicians into office that have no business being there.

Face it - abortion is legal for only one reason - the majority of Americans want the abortion option for woman who for whatever reason NEED to have an abortion. Not too many folks believe that if they NEED an abortion anyone else has a right to make a decision for them.

Everyone makes bad decisions at times, I am against abortion... but I know that no one can force a woman to have a baby against her will ... it is impossible. A mother must want to have her baby or she will not have it.

Abortion is illegal in many places - woman find ways to abort anyway.

Left by Bobrobert on Jun 05, 2009 7:54 AM

# RE: Some Notre Dame Seniors Say No to Graduation

Honestly I have never listened to whatever President Obama word, I am totally tired of His way. I thought He will stand for justice n truth, well the Bible says
BLESSED IS THE NATION THAT FEARS THE LORD, if we want to see AMERICA rise higher, RESPECTED BY OTHER NATIONS LET'S PUT GOD BACK TO EVERY school, offices and american life.
n make sure to stand right with ISRAEL THE JEWISH PEOPLE, the bible says, blessed are those who blesses Israel
Left by paim20071 on Jun 08, 2009 9:08 PM