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Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

Well, I took a week off from ChurchWatch, and what a week it was. While I was away (getting married, by the way for those who have not heard), Todd Bentley announced that he and his wife were filing for separation. Last Friday, the board of Fresh Fire Ministries announced that Todd had "an unhealthy relationship" with a female staff member during the revival. At the same time, Senators Obama and McCain decided to meet with Pastor Rick Warren to talk religion. Oh my!

"We have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff," the announcement reads.

The letter, posted on the Fresh Fire Web site, followed another online note three days earlier acknowledging the separation. "Todd and Shonnah Bentley are presently experiencing significant friction in their relationship and are currently separated. We want to affirm that there has been no sexual immorality on the part of either Todd or Shonnah, nor has there ever been."

The news has many inside and outside the Church reeling and many are voicing their opinions. Here are a few worth noting:

"The History and Future of the Present Revival" by Rick Joyner of MorningStar Ministries

"Life After Lakeland: Sorting Out the Confusion" by J. Lee Grady of Charisma Magazine

Whether you loved or loathed Todd Bentley and the Lakeland Revival, now is a time to pray for Todd and his wife, Shonnah. Yes, there are questions that need to be answered. Yes, there are lessons that need to be learned. But the Church must walk in grace and truth, just as Jesus did. To walk only in truth without grace and love is to be a clanging symbol or a noisy gong. Let love be our highest goal, for love never fails.

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The Summit at Saddleback

Over the weekend, John McCain and Barack Obama, the presumptive presidential nominees of their respective parties appeared together at Saddleback Church in Orange County, California. The forum was hosted by Pastor Rick Warren who asked each of the candidates the same questions in two separate one-hour sessions.

The main thought on the mind of evangelical Christians was the question of salvation. "What does it mean to you to trust in Christ," Warren asked Senator Obama, "and what does it mean on a daily basis? I mean, what does that really look like?"

"As a starting point, it means I believe in that Jesus Christ died for my sins and that I am redeemed through him," Obama said.

According to CBN News political reporter David Brody, faith is a subject Obama brings up often on the campaign trail but McCain doesn't talk publicly about it much at all.

On Saturday night Warren asked McCain, "You publicly say you are a follower of Christ. What does that mean to you and how does faith work out in your life on a daily basis? What does it mean to you?"

McCain responded "It means I'm saved and forgiven."

Faith and religion has played an interesting and different role in this campaign. This is new ground we're treading on, folks, with  Obama's presidential campaign aggressively pursuing the religious vote. According to Time magazine, Senator Obama has a larger and more comprehensive religious outreach operation than any Democrat in history. Other than white Evangelicals, according to an August poll from the Barna Group, Obama leads McCain in every religious demographic — mainline Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Muslims.

But according to Time, those white Evangelicals are key, and so far Obama's support among them is not rising above John Kerry's numbers from 2004.

"One major stumbling block appears to be abortion," writes Time's Amy Sullivan. "Nearly two-thirds of white Evangelicals in a recent TIME poll say they could vote for a candidate whose position on abortion differed from theirs. And many Evangelicals have, like Warren, broadened their agenda of concerns to include issues that should favor Obama like global poverty and the environment. But in practice, abortion continues to be a threshold issue for a large number of Evangelical voters."

Obama last visited Saddleback Church in December, 2006, when he and Kansas Senator Sam Brownback spoke at Warren's annual conference on HIV/AIDS. Senator Brownback opened with a story about how the last time he and Obama shared a stage, it was at a meeting of the NAACP and he didn't receive the most rousing of welcomes. Turning to Obama, he said, "Welcome to my house." The crowd laughed, but when it was Obama's turn, the Democrat had a message for his Republican colleague. "With all due respect, Sam," said Obama, "this is my house, too."

Alan Wisdom, Vice President for Research and Programs at the Institute on Religion and Democracy, commented on the forum. "Each of the three men on stage at Saddleback Church succeeded in his distinct objective. "Rick Warren presented a positive image of evangelicals as concerned about a range of issues, willing to listen to candidates from both parties, and able to address tough issues with civility.

"Barack Obama showed himself to be comfortable among evangelicals, able to appeal to them in a language of faith that they understand. Simply appearing at an evangelical megachurch alongside the GOP candidate was a big gain for Obama.

"John McCain effectively reminded the audience that he has clear conservative positions on a range of issues-from abortion and same-sex marriage to school choice, energy policy, and confronting Islamic extremism-that are much closer to where most evangelicals stand. Obama's more equivocal answers on these questions highlighted the substantive contrast between the candidates. Most evangelicals hold to a conservative political philosophy, and they are likely to end up voting for candidates who share that philosophy."

It will be interesting to watch as the election season unfolds. Here's an example of the Democratic initiative to be inclusive to evangelicals. According to a Democratic National Committee press release, Relevant Magazine founder and CEO Cameron Strang and Florida mega-church pastor Joel Hunter will pray at the Democratic National Convention later this month.

Strang will give the benediction on Monday, August 25 and Hunter will give the benediction on Thursday, August 28.

Here are the rest of the convention evening invocations and benedictions:

Monday, August 25
Invocation: Polly Baca, Catholic, Greeley, CO
Benediction: Cameron Strang, Evangelical, Orlando, FL

Tuesday, August 26
Invocation: Dr. Cynthia Hale, Disciples of Christ, Decatur, GA
Benediction: Revs. Jin Ho Kang and Young Sook Kang, Methodist, Aurora, CO

Wednesday, August 27
Invocation: Archbishop Demetrios, Greek Orthodox, New York, NY
Benediction: Sr. Catherine Pinkerton, Catholic, Cleveland, OH

Thursday, August 28
Invocation: Rabbi David Saperstein, Union for Reform Judaism, Washington, DC
Benediction: Pastor Joel Hunter, Evangelical, Northland, FL

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Comments on this post

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

I believe I am an Evangelical(Southern Baptist). Todd Bentley's apparent situation just stains Christianity even more. We are all sinners(Romans 3;23) but we must do all we can to follow Jesus and be light. We need to pray for all that are in the public eye ere they waver. I myself need others to lift me to the LORD. IF HE DID AS CLAIMED, he can still approach the throne of grace and be forgiven.
As far as the race for the president, We are commanded to pray for those in authority.
Left by mcnicklebgd on Aug 19, 2008 6:06 PM

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

Concerning Todd Bentley, I am saddened that the powerful move of God that was taking root at the Lakeland Revival had to be shut down - by God. I remember during the Brownsville Revival, both Steven Hill and John Kilpatrick said they stayed on their knees in prayer - asking and seeking the Holy Spirit to reveal iniquity - constantly watchful of their motives, vigilant to remove "themselves" in order to make SURE they did not interrupt the Spirit of God. I feel sorry for Todd Bentley. I watched as God QUICKLY removed His Spirit from the Lakeland Revival, and I was shocked at the things Bentley was doing - it looked like a circus act and was clearly NOT the Holy Spirit of God.
Left by cloudnine on Aug 20, 2008 8:59 AM

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

Adultery is a sin for everyone. Christians are not immune, the more you think you are a Christian, better watch out the more you need to be extra careful and pray w.out ceasing !

Let us as Christians be not hypocrites, Jesus talks and warns us about this many times.

I pray to God that Americans in the elections will be objective and ask the Lord to appoint a good Christian more in the heart... this can mean Obama. Let us all breathe Fresh Air...
Left by manda0505sand on Aug 20, 2008 6:40 PM

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

I'm really saddened by Todd Bentley's situation.All I'm doing is praying to God to restore their marriage because I strongly believe that nothing is impossible to the Lord.I really believe He can do a miracle so that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is continued to be preached to all nations.
Concerning the American presidential race,I'm praying so that God's will be done.
Left by pvishal87 on Aug 23, 2008 1:30 PM

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

The word of God is anointed and shall not return void. I pray people keep their healing as it came from God and not from Todd. Save your time from critizing and forgive your hurt and praise God for healing. Pray for Todd and family and Fresh Fire ministries. CC from Texas
Left by carol32 on Sep 01, 2008 8:51 AM

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

How can a supposedly good, practicing Christian evangelical, which Sarah Palin is supposed to be, join herself to a ticket with John McCain, whose very life is the complete opposite of what of a practicing Christian should be partaking of? John McCain is a documented adulterer, fornicator, liar, slanderer, thief and an enemy of poor people, of whom God said in the Bible, “he (or she) who hates the poor insults his (her) maker," and "the wicked lies in wait for the poor (to ensnare them)".

McCain, until this year’s presidential campaign, has not only consistently voted against helping the poor and middle class, but he even harshly criticized and bashed some very prominent evangelical, fundamental Christian leaders who took issue with McCain’s politics in years past. Even though they have become 'reconciled' now (to the shame of these 'leaders' who threw their lot in with this thief and oppressor of poor people, for the sake of putting their party ahead of their flocks and th
Left by kcinayubo on Sep 08, 2008 11:20 AM

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

You guys should read Julia Loren’s blog post, “In respect to Todd Bentley & leaders who crumble”
http://julialoren.net/index.php?id=8502473226487290795?v=2
Left by cazchat on Sep 10, 2008 2:40 AM

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

God bless and glory to all who believe in the LORD JESUS CHRIST as our savior. Jesus teaches us to forgive,it's not something to throw around lightly. If you cannot forgive,then how can the 'LORD', forgive you! All are sinners,and fall short of the glory of'GOD'. Please just forgive anyone who has done anything in the past,and pray for their salvation...thats all 'GOD' ask of us. Pray for our leaders,downtrodded,poor,sick,all who need us..to many of us 'JUDGE! Politician will say and do what ever they can,and will lie,and 'DO!',to get the vote. Vote your party,and your conscience,liberal,or concervative,it's the party,not the man,that will lead! PRAY FOR US ALL!
Left by gordon352 on Sep 19, 2008 2:19 PM

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

the will of God must surely be done in everything.his glory must always be manifested.GOD WILL HELP US ALL IN JESUS NAME AMEN
Left by queenogo4real on Sep 23, 2008 11:42 AM

# RE: Bentley, Obama and McCain, Oh My!

Have you read about the Barak of the Bible? There seems to be some similarities to today's Barak, including the role women in leadership are playing. I expand on this idea in one of my blogs at globalbiblicaltruth.blogspot.com.
Left by gturner2 on Sep 25, 2008 12:05 AM